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What Nobody Tells You About Running Multiple Marathons (58 marathons) | Liam Sheppard #613
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🤝 Documenting the journey will be a valuable experience.
🤝 The run itself may be easier than the logistics.
🤝 Balancing work commitments with the running schedule is essential.
Lachlan and Liam discuss their ambitious plan to run 58 marathons across 50 states in 60 days.
They delve into the logistics of the journey, the challenges of winter running, and the importance of recovery and comfort on the road.
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Do Something Today To Be Better For Tomorrow
Today I have in the co-pilot seat Liam Shepard. Liam, good day man.
Speaker 2:Good to be back.
Speaker 1:It's been a while it has been a while, I feel like obviously, we did the what do we used to call it? The Cabana Boys, cabana Boys, and then we obviously did the one where we were sitting on the balcony after, which was a while ago, but today, everybody tuning in, we're going to be the co-pilot and probably the most important piece of this puzzle, and we've, in our trusted little hands, got our iPhones and a heap of notes of the key areas that we're going to be talking about, for how the hell this is actually going to work, because a few things that people always say to me the run's going to be challenging. I'm like the run's probably going to be one of the easiest parts, and the more we get into the logistics, the harder it appears to be.
Speaker 2:There is a lot of driving to do. It's going to be minimum. I think there's a couple of days where it's about an hour of driving, but every other day it's about five to seven.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've got it here. The actual stats don't fall off your seats. Everyone but running. So we're going to be doing 2,446.31 kilometers. Is that kilometers or miles? Kilometers? Yeah right, that's a few, but that's. You know, I checked my Strava around how many I'd done over the previous 12 months, how many kilometers I'd run over the previous 12 months, and I was not even at that amount. So to put into perspective the amount of kilometers and if you guys watch me on Instagram, I'm always fucking running so the amount of kilometers I've run in the past 12 months is what I'm going to be doing in 58 days Seems totally doable, very doable. But the crazy thing is Liam's going to be driving 13,731 kilometers. I don't know how many football fields that is, but that's a few. Probably 13,700 meters long. There's a few, yeah.
Speaker 2:What is it? Seven times more in driving than it is in the running.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I feel like I'm doing more. Yeah, I've got the easy job and to sprinkle in a bit of snow. Have you driven in snow before?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was delivering pizzas in Canada back in 2015.
Speaker 1:Did- you think back in the day when you were training to deliver pizza? Sorry, you were delivering pizzas. You were training for this event. That's all I was thinking about. That's wild. You're just trying to find who's going to run it.
Speaker 2:My time will come.
Speaker 1:Firstly, I guess I've done a bit of chin chin wagon on here around. Why I wanted to do it. But what made you want to come on it? Because you didn't even take much. You didn't take any convincing, which is pretty wild. Like and before liam shares his part, liam is going to be taking 60 days, essentially because we're going to be in al earlier 60 days of his life, to come on this.
Speaker 2:That is a huge sacrifice and investment, missing out on Australian summer to go to Alaska in winter.
Speaker 1:We didn't have to really say how hectic it was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't really give it a second thought. I thought this is going to be an interesting adventure. Why not jump in? Someone's got to drive it, I don't know who else. A second thought I thought this is going to be an interesting adventure. Why not jump in? Someone's got to drive it, I don't know who else you'd get to do it.
Speaker 1:I literally don't have anyone else. I literally could not think of anyone else who'd do it. I couldn't think of anyone else. I'd rather do it. I think it's going to be fun, like people you know, there's a million questions. I get not really a million questions. I get not really a million, but there's a number of questions I keep getting. But I'm like the adventures that we're going to have that you can't even. There's nothing that apart from sitting in a car. But there's going to be some fun shit like frustrating stuff, but there's going to be some experiences that you'll get to talk, we'll get to talk about for decades to come.
Speaker 2:I think we'll try to find a gym membership that has locations across the country and then we'll go in just chat into those managers that are working in there and the reaction on their faces, from what is going to be said, from why we are in every single state.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we'll be epic. Well, you've done a fair bit of driving around the country, though, so like we've pretty much lent on your knowledge and brains for the logistics, because I was just like, yeah, we'll get in the van, we'll be sweet, but there's a lot more that goes into it than just that, so give us a bit of, I guess, your thoughts on it around like what could be challenging things that we've obviously spoken about since but are important to consider on this experience journey.
Speaker 2:I think it's a mix between trying to find the most picturesque places to do this, where the footage would be amazing to see, and not having to drive too far every day, like you sort of have to just get into a state and out again fairly quickly to move on to the next one. You might want to really run niagara falls, but the logistics works a lot better to go into new york city instead of being up in new buffalo and you run around central park, which is also amazing, landmark, iconic, yeah. So you sort of pick between the two and figure out which one is going to work best for the driving time so you're not stuck at 15 hours after getting in, after getting off a run to get to the next spot. So so New York, I think, was probably one of the most difficult states to get through with, doing it in Central Park actually.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:If we had done it around Niagara Falls, it probably would have been better, but it would have been frozen over.
Speaker 1:For sure it would be iconic though.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's like looking at the Buffalo Stadium. We'll be there around the same time as, or just after Super Bowl time. Yeah legit. There'll be a lot of snow if you're going off last year, so I don't know exactly when. We've just got the route.
Speaker 1:So we have actually mapped out the route and it'll be on the YouTube channel as well and we'll talk through it. I suppose we can maybe pull out some ones to talk about. But that's the thing I was like mapping out this route, and Liam was like you realize, we've got to drive this. And I was like yeah, I know. He's like well, have you considered the time? I was like no, we can make it happen.
Speaker 1:And then, obviously, when you start to I guess this was the emotion of like this is going to be the gnarliest. We're going to hit all the cool hot spots in america, but it's just not achievable in a safe way to do it. Um, unless you have like multiple different you know multiple different drivers, but at the moment the team is just us two, which is going to make it more epic of a story. But ideally we're going to have a few more people join, but there is unfortunately some places we can't hit, like even te Texas. Where are we in Texas? Actually, we are in Amarillo. We drove through that. We stayed in Amarillo.
Speaker 1:There was plenty of places we drove through on the recent tour with Shepard that were like, oh, we're coming through this exact route.
Speaker 2:That last section where we went Phoenix across to Nashville.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I reckon the first four states that we hit in mainland Albuquerque oh, that'll be interesting.
Speaker 1:Remember when we went there.
Speaker 2:I was like and run past the Breaking Bad house, yeah.
Speaker 1:Breaking Bad house in winter. That'd be nice. Oklahoma City, Amarillo, how do they pronounce it? Little Rock, Arkansas, Baton Rouge.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's where we changed.
Speaker 1:So when we hit Arkansas and Little Rock, went north east to get back into tennessee as well, hit southeast and head towards louisiana, and then we don't hit tennessee for another week yeah, and so, for those who are maybe listening to the, we live in tennessee, uh, but we live in nashville. We're gonna heat up knoxville because it's a college town. Be pretty badass, hopefully. Yeah, get some people out. But even like, what are you most excited if you look, or let you have a look through, and which one are you most excited to go to? And oh, like, I'm pretty pumped to go to new york in winter, I think it. Obviously we've done it in summer now, so that's cool. But even chicago, I think, will be cool, because that river's like the water, supposed to be frozen over. That'll be cool.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, the lake. There's 10 states I've never been to, which I think would have to be up there in the list of places I want to see. I would like to see New Orleans, but we are in Baton Rouge, which is very close. I don't know whether we can adjust that a little bit and try to run through the old town.
Speaker 1:I think this is not set in stone as well, because there could be some days where shit goes wrong and we have to adjust.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Hopefully down the south things are a bit more smooth. I feel like the start of it's going to be probably the best weather for us. Yeah, it gets colder for sure, and if we can keep on track early on, it's going to make it a lot better for everyone.
Speaker 1:I'm really pumped to go to Montana and Wyoming, I think, and Nevada yeah, that whole last bit from Colorado, Nebraska, Dakota, those landscapes would be pretty incredible. California, yeah.
Speaker 2:Depends where in California, where in the Redwoods? That'd be awesome.
Speaker 1:But we've hit a bit of a fork in the road there. Like, obviously, the Redwood National Park, google it. It's pretty picturesque and beautiful. But we have realized, like how far is the drive from Redwood to San Fran?
Speaker 2:Five hours, yeah, something like that. So pretty big, which means you got to get to the airport to get to the last US state.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:To fly out of California at a reasonable time to make a flight. You've got a four-hour run before it. You're already nine to 10 hours into the day without waiting at the airport.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So the logistics of that sort of makes it you need to get closer, you need to be somewhere closer to San Francisco to run. Santa Rosa might be a good one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we spent some time there.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's a nice spot. That can be fun. What do you think? Like what else? Like obviously, snow, driving in snow you feel comfortable with. Like we've joked on the road. We've joked on the road. We've joked while we're doing I'm touring with shepherd. Like we need, like liam, to have a side mission because I want to like vlog it and obviously liam's got his own company and things to work on. Actually, how do you see it working for you in regards to one, you've got to drive, but two, you've got a company to run. How on earth are you going to do that?
Speaker 2:I'm going to try to break it up into blocks of working time efficient work time. You'll have your run of four hours Hopefully Four hours a day. I'm going to try to probably work for a block of three, probably run with you for the first hour every day, or the last hour, depending on what is easier, that's a little side mission 10K every day, it'd be 600, and I was working it out the other day, it'd be 612 kilometers because there's not even anyone else who could really say that.
Speaker 1:I think there's only like four people who've ever done the 50, 50, 50.
Speaker 2:So to do the 58 and 10k in every state, that's badass yeah, and then finish off with the last one, do the whole marathon marathon, just knock her fully out. Yeah, I feel like at that point I should be able to do it. You've trained, I've done one before, I'll get through it. Yeah, so I think I'll do like a three-hour block of work drive and then before bed do another couple of hours. See what?
Speaker 1:I need to be done.
Speaker 2:It is a fire business, mostly a wildfire business, so it's all summer based. There won't be a lot happening in north america yeah in that time it'll be all probably in the tail end of the australian side of things yeah so it'll be sort of february, march where it's probably like the biggest risk of wildfires and bushfires in australia at that time. But it's a you have to install the system before the fires come through.
Speaker 2:So our main busy time of year will be sort of November, December, January, maybe into February, and we'll just have to see what happens.
Speaker 1:Yeah, player by year. Imagine that, like I've gone out for a run and you've just ducked off to fucking go sort out a system or something.
Speaker 1:I'm like dude, where are we? What do you reckon like then? Okay, so, from the the layout like we're tossing up between either, our ideal situation for travel and sleeping is a winnebago like, preferably one that sleeps five to seven people, so that way we can have someone else that can come on the road, um, at all times. To like, obviously, assist in driving and whatever else, but then also ideally have a physio on board would be pretty cool and not all have to share double beds.
Speaker 2:Yeah, even if it was four single bunks, like two bunks each side, that would be probably more convenient than me having to spoon you for 50 days in a row.
Speaker 1:Well, that could actually be the real story, like the real story is covered up in 58 marathons. I suppose we're not in a van in Australia, but wouldn't that be a treat. But 50 marathons we could do 50 spoonings in 50 states in 50 days. That's probably never been done. I don't think that would be a weird and wild experience. Not with two brother-in-laws, so help us everybody.
Speaker 2:Make for the perfect honeymoon for me. Oh fuck, wouldn't it work. Married a week earlier.
Speaker 1:Liam's getting married in Mexico a week earlier, and then the honeymoon is literally coming with me and also going on.
Speaker 2:the trip Might need to be cut out of it.
Speaker 1:It's probably going to be edited, I probably won't. But there you go, ladies and gentlemen. That's why, yeah, so obviously worst case as well. So you know, I'm not committed to doing this only on the terms that we get, like all the you know, the ideal things we need to, I guess, give us the best chance upon completion. The reason why, as well, like with the winter bag on the comfort, is because it's going to be so physically taxing and fatiguing that you need to really prioritize recovery.
Speaker 1:And obviously, with the driving and stuff up, my idea is having the compression sleeves on and trying to get as much sleep, because what I experienced when I was doing the rowing marathons, my body was so fatigued that I couldn't get to sleep. So whenever you can sort of get, whether it's an hour or two hours, that's important rather than just saying you know, I'm going to sleep for 10 hours a night. It's like your body doesn't just do that once it's cooked, like it definitely does not. So the idea of having that extra additional comfort where we've got a kitchen in it so we can cook and like we can pretty much just live out of it we don't need air bmbs, we can sleep in what is it?
Speaker 2:walmart or yeah, walmart, it sort of takes all of the stress of actually having to get to a certain point that night out of it as well, because we could pull up, sleep, get up earlier and drive for the last hour before going for the run. So having something you can sleep in really gives us that flexibility, like I was just looking at our first couple of runs here, there's a six-hour flight from Alaska back down to Arizona and then the next drive is six and a half hours to get into New Mexico.
Speaker 2:I'm like well, why wouldn't we just drive an hour and a half in the morning before your run and then run somewhere like along Salt River?
Speaker 1:Yeah, we drove through. Oh yeah, that was cool, the tubing place.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you could do something like that that's an hour out of town, or an hour and a half out of town, and then it cuts that right back down to being only a four-hour or five-hour trip, yeah, where you get in the night from Alaska, get in the car and drive those couple of hours and then get up in the morning and run.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of ways to adjust if you're able to sleep in the car. Mississippi's only an hour drive to the next one, so you get things like that where you're like oh great, maybe we just don't move at all after the run, we get up in the morning and drive. And you have like a full rest day of well, rest day, yeah, rest day, if only running 42K.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, but yeah, like things like that could work well, but then you also potentially like I've never driven in the snow like long term, like potentially like I've never driven in the snow, like long term, like especially in these conditions so learning about how to make sure your car battery doesn't go flat and all of those sorts of things. Is it like you need to leave the car running the whole time or do we check in at like? Because I was watching a cool vlog I think I was sharing with you, where they just stay at vineyards and you could, yeah, like you, buy a membership for whatever it is which could be worthwhile, because it looked pretty gnarly.
Speaker 2:And you just plug in there and have some sort of heating.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it keeps the car looked after to a degree, so something like that. But if we don't raise enough funds for it, we're going to be getting like a wicked for those who are in Australia, a wicked camper van For those who are in the United states. The brand is. Let me just check what the brand is here. It is called travelers autobahn. Essentially it has a double bed in it and if we get the big van it's got two double beds in it yeah, we'll sort of be a bit, yeah, like worst case.
Speaker 1:That's what we will be doing, and you know, even in that case, you know, yeah, it'll make it challenging there is a I feel like there isn't an incentive of having a smaller car at the pace.
Speaker 2:You can sit at, the maneuverability, the parking, all of that sort of stuff is so much easier in a smaller van well, dude, if you want to get closer to me, just say you don't have to.
Speaker 1:Don't have to talk about the small van. You just say there's one bed well, we go small instead of two beds, yeah true, yeah, well, like, that's probably something we got to think about, like, especially in the snow, because we're definitely going to be moving slower in the snow.
Speaker 2:Yeah a few of these drives, but may say five hours, but that could easily turn into seven or eight.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that wouldn't be fun which means, yeah, it's going to be chaotic. That like I think in an ideal world this would just go super smoothly. We would have this plan. We would know that all the times we've mapped out, because we've literally got a spreadsheet that has, like, I'm going to the top once I've got it's good, like uh, or you speak, yeah, day city state, the travel time after the run.
Speaker 2:So it's the driving time, the ideal start time of the run, going off sunrise and stretching time and stuff like that and previous days travel time, the ideal finish time for each run. Then we give us about 45 minutes to an hour of stretching and cool down before we start the next bit of driving. Then we've got sunrise. Is there a marathon route on Strava in that location? And then, if it's a trail run or a road run, so we've got most of them a road. There's a couple of trail runs around the Carolinas.
Speaker 1:And that probably depends as well as if we change we might have to. Who was at Sandwich yesterday? Even just some of the places I can just start running out of town that could be.
Speaker 2:Yeah, say 40 Ks, at the other end yeah, which is half an hour of driving, something like that be nice, yeah. And then it's got the weather estimates, which are not tropical what are?
Speaker 1:what are they um?
Speaker 2:so alaska negative seven. Uh, phoenix comes in with the coldest for some reason. Oh no, sorry. No, it doesn't, sorry, it's it's 11, not negative 11. 11 to 24, and then working our way up around the mid-teens and then, once we hit North Carolina, it starts to drop again from 18 back down to sort of 15, 13, 12s, 11s, around 10 when we get to New York, and then into the negatives, pretty quickly.
Speaker 2:Yeah from negative 2 to negative 8, then on from Rhode Island around for the next two weeks at least, probably all the way until we get back to California. You won't have as lot of inflammation.
Speaker 1:No, I definitely won't have inflammation. It's like how do you dress for that?
Speaker 2:it's got to be some good channels of like reddit yeah, for stuff like that, you'll have what you should be wearing, because you don't want to be wearing stuff that's going to overheat you, make you sweat and then freeze you just come see me.
Speaker 1:I'm like a fucking piece of cardboard on the ground yeah, so they're.
Speaker 2:I'm sure there's some pretty good sort of leggings and hoods and stuff that you need to find.
Speaker 1:Well, that's what I'm excited to get. I was going to get you a pilot like an actual pilot hat, but I'm like that's probably not suitable for the conditions. You probably want more of a pilot style beanie. Yeah, absolutely. That's probably going to get more wear and tear than a hat. That will probably just sit in the back somewhere.
Speaker 2:Might be able to find a beanie in every state.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, we went on a tangent. So when we were driving we were like we need to have like a side mission for Liam. So I was like I'm out there ticking off kilometers and Liam's got this obsession with Starbucks mugs like, no, that is a good size, yeah, but it's an obsession around a good size of mug. So I was like maybe you go in search of the closest fucking Starbucks mug and come back to Australia with 58 mugs in 58 days and hopefully starbucks can sponsor us a coffee a day and a mug, yeah, well each mug's 20.
Speaker 2:I was like, oh, it's only 20 bucks, but it ends up being well over a grand so if we fall short on our budget by a grand, it's about 1200 bucks worth of mugs and then I'd have to drink out of them consistently could you imagine how I'm just trying to think where the hell they would fit? In the van It'd be a cool story.
Speaker 1:I think there's got to be a side quest for you, because I look forward to getting back when I'm miserable, after running in the cold every day, to hearing a good story.
Speaker 2:It'd be good if someone could come up with an idea of what I could collect. Yeah, if there was someone out there that was like every someone out there, that was like every state has this, that's different or that's a great idea, like maybe it's. I was just thinking it was more like um different beanies from every football team, but there's only 32, not 50 yeah, but maybe we could collect college ones oh yeah, it will be this.
Speaker 2:Oh, the season will just for finish, so maybe we can get them on sale yeah, I was like discounts.
Speaker 1:For sure, like 100, that'll be the goer yeah, right in. How do you yeah, send, send in everyone if you've got ideas for that side quest. What do you reckon? Um, how do you reckon you'll go not seeing emma for two months?
Speaker 2:that'll be the longest by far the longest yeah like you, you and amy with the band back in 2015, 16, you would have had more than two months apart.
Speaker 1:Yeah. But a week after the wedding it's a great time to go away for two months. It's really showing your commitment, isn't it? It is. It's even more so that she's allowing you to go.
Speaker 2:To be fair, it was going to be starting in April, April.
Speaker 1:We did drag it forward. Yep, carry on Quite a bit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's going to be different. I feel like we're well, luckily. We're confident and comfortable enough with each other to allow each other the space and not be overbearing. Yeah, like not wanting to text or call or anything all the time like I have in previous relationships. I feel like there was a lot more of a like what the fuck are they doing? Yeah, I want to be right, like know what they're doing, talk to them all the time. I don't know whether it was more of a jealousy thing or a lack of trust, where you're like what are they up to? But if they're texting me, they can't be doing anything else. This is all just coming to my head right now.
Speaker 1:I really thought about this too well, maybe they're watching a video next to their other boyfriend. Yeah, a video, a fuck, a video. Vhs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So I think in that sense it would be easier, I guess in a way. But also, two months is a long time, it's huge. We've done two or three weeks maybe.
Speaker 1:I reckon the most you guys have done is like two yeah.
Speaker 2:They came back for the Savannah and the Reef. When did they do?
Speaker 1:yeah, but I think like remember when the girls went to Nashville. That would have been for three weeks oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So Amy went on the riding trip and Emma went with them, so that would have been three weeks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was the best three weeks of our life we played a lot of golf.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we did maybe we did. Maybe that's what I could collect a golf ball from every state. That's actually a good one. That's a ripper.
Speaker 1:And that's a dollar a ball.
Speaker 2:That's a good one. That's cheaper and smaller.
Speaker 1:I like it. You're going to all be walking around with 58 balls in your bag, maybe 60.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I like that we find a nice. Maybe you could run at golf courses Golf.
Speaker 1:this is a segue or a side note, but we were looking at playing golf in Mexico for your wedding.
Speaker 2:How much was it? The Mexicans must have some cash to blow off golf. The cheapest one was $380 Aussie for 18 holes.
Speaker 1:Who's playing around a golf at that I wouldn't be buying a beer with it.
Speaker 2:No, it must be a lot of rich Americans coming down to Mexico to play golf, that's fucking wild, absolutely wild. Yeah, I do like that. It could even just be a tea. I'm going to write that down Liam's side quest.
Speaker 1:We need to Google the golf courses in as well, ahead of time.
Speaker 2:That does make me jealous.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let me know it might also be closed in winter. That might be our issue. Well, go dig through snow. That's going to be not hard to find a golf ball.
Speaker 2:I've got to find my own golf ball. That is cool. Yeah, I can't even buy one. That is cool.
Speaker 1:Budget is tight Liam's side quest Get golf ball Every state. All right, we've got it. But state all right, we've got it. But still, if you have better ideas, send them through. Send them through. Um, what else haven't we quickly brushed over? Where are we here? We've done, obviously, a bit on the route, which is cool. What do you think okay, from like you've trained a lot with me over the last what six years? We've done like 12 hour challenges together road marathons, run marathons. What do you think is going to be some of the biggest challenges I'll face?
Speaker 2:I think if there was a lot of people in the car at all times, that would annoy you a lot. So I feel like if there's a definitely happy medium of the amount of people in the crew, yeah, like if you had four at all times, I feel like that could be overwhelming. Three is probably okay for stints, and if it was just me and you, you can sleep in the back.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Put the headphones in and drive and not make any noise anywhere. We'll be okay. We'll kill each other. Probably the food situation too. I think it's probably going to be tough to keep the amount of energy getting to you. Yeah, I get full way too quickly.
Speaker 1:I might actually YouTube what's the hot dog guy Joey Chestnut.
Speaker 1:Yeah, joey Chestnut, I might take a diet plan from him because he's still not a big boy, but he can eat and that's what I need to do. I need to train to eat. I think it's going to be challenging. Yeah, other thing that I think is going to be a fun learning experience for us, as well as documenting it.
Speaker 1:So, once again, if we don't raise enough and us enough capital to have a documentary dude or videographer, um doing it ourselves. So I'm literally watching like one to two documentaries a day on, like this style of stuff, and seeing the shots that they take, how they tell the stories, um, but then also like watching how you can do it with just yourself and like learning. So I think that's going to be wild um, to do that, like I'm literally at the moment testing using chat, gpt. Being like this is what my day involves. This is the key point that I want to get across Write me a script, tell me what shots I need, and it's doing it. So we'll see whether I learn and whatever. But I think that'll be cool for us as well when we're 70.
Speaker 2:Having two months of fully documented life. That'll be wild. Hopefully I'm good enough behind the camera.
Speaker 1:Well, ladies and gentlemen, you will be the people who decide that. Okay, If he's shit, tell him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, tell me early too, don't tell me on day 58.
Speaker 1:Yeah, don't be like, oh, I think the camera dude could have really sorted his stuff out. If you think it's shaky or wobbly or bad shots or lighting, feed it to him. Yeah, absolutely feed it to him. I think, um, this is and I don't know whether I've told just before we wrap up there's multiple reasons why we're doing this right. One, because we've got nothing to do in america. Two, I'm kidding. But two, it's going to be a wicked experience. Like I'm genuinely excited for the member. Like I, it's going to be a once in a lifetime opportunity.
Speaker 1:I don't feel we'll ever get the opportunity to just have two months together doing something like this ever again, which I think will be gnarly.
Speaker 1:Thirdly is like there's always an opportunity to grow out of it and I want to learn from, like the Iron Cowboy, who's leveraged this and what he already loved and has a skill set in, to be able to do it with ourself in terms of whether it gets us speaking around, mindset or even logistics.
Speaker 1:Like the logistics that go into this would be fucking mental to then turn it into a business. So, like Liam's not getting paid, obviously, either am I. None of us are getting paid, we're just sucking it up. But we've got like the idea that if I do public speaking and stuff off the back of it or podcasts which it will always be better the two of us doing that anyway is we'll split all of that, which will be sick. So I wanted to share that because I think there's people who don't do these things because of cash or they're like I can't afford to pay a friend or anyone, and it's just like I think the importance of being resourceful and learning how to still achieve what you want, which is this cool experience. But then if there's something that can come off it, what does that then look like? And I know there's a lot of people who will want to hear this story if we make it through.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of people who have said you can't do it, so they'll want to watch.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and all you people who say I can't do it, fuck you Watch him.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I love it when people tell me I can't do it, and I don't mean that I take that back. I've probably never said anything like that on the podcast, telling people to give. I don't mean that, but it's going to happen, so you're welcome.
Speaker 2:That's it Costs we don't really need to break through the cost of the car and then flights.
Speaker 1:Flights in Australia is going to be stinging, yeah, and just food as well. That's where, once again, it comes in. Helpful for us to have a smaller crew, because if we're eating $100 each worth of food a day, obviously that's Australian dollars. I'm budgeting everything in Australian dollars as well, because Americans pretty much double it. We'll be eating a fair bit. And then obviously, yeah, if, like, we have to keep the van on, we're going to chew through more fuel coolant servicing Shoes I've got to have. Like, if you get 400 kilometers of a pair of shoes, then I need at least six shoes. But then you take into account, you know, wet weather and whatever.
Speaker 2:So we'll see, yeah, I think. Uh, I don't know if you got into the australian side of it no you mentioned it once or twice, um I don't know how much you've actually said I've not said much so you can where the last eight states come from.
Speaker 1:There's only 50 in america people are blowing up on um, not uh, on youtube. Delay, mate, there's only 50 in America. People are blowing up on YouTube. They're like mate, there's only 50 states. I'm like I do know that.
Speaker 2:I didn't come out and make this thing and find eight states just to run around.
Speaker 1:I'm running some twice.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, the last American state is Hawaii, and then get on a flight and have the lovely 10-hour flight back to Sydney to then keep going for another week.
Speaker 1:Oh, quickly, what do you think? Because I did bring this up about the time zone thing- I think you've got to go every 24 hours.
Speaker 2:I know you will miss a date.
Speaker 1:And Strava and Stravians will fucking kick my ass. Well, does it miss a date, for strava and stravians will fucking kick my ass well, do they miss it?
Speaker 2:does it miss a date for them as well?
Speaker 1:because when you've run, if they're in one spot and everyone watching.
Speaker 2:This will be more than likely just in one spot.
Speaker 1:They'll be at home finishing work but if you go on my strava, like to look at my profile, it'll say just like you know how whoop screws up the technology where it's like does it miss the day yeah because it misses the day on whoop as well but I wonder if it all adjusts for when you get, because it's just showing every 24 hours you've had a run maybe you need to call Strava yeah, I think anyone from Strava listening.
Speaker 2:Please help us, because you'll have if we go off the flight that we took from Hawaii last week, you'll run in the morning, get to the airport at 11, fly at 1 Hawaiian time, I'd say on the Wednesday, and then land at 9 pm on the Thursday, which is still only the 10 hours and only 14 hours since you last ran. If you sleep for 8, get up and run again, you're still in the 24-hour loop. I hope everyone listening to this is following along and it's not just all in my head, but I think you have to stay at the 24-hour mark. I don't think you can get up off a plane and run two full marathons in the same day.
Speaker 1:Are you telling me, I can't I?
Speaker 2:feel like if you're going to get the last seven done, you don't want to have to run two in a row on a day. Yeah, after a big flight, yeah after a 10-hour flight, you get into Sydney at 9.30 or whatever time. We landed 10 o'clock Decent night's sleep. Get up at 5 and run then and you're only at seven 10, 17, plus three. You're sitting at about the 20-hour mark from when you last finished your run.
Speaker 1:True.
Speaker 2:And you'll finish that next marathon within 24 hours of finishing your last one. And everyone that's sitting at home that looks at their phone 5 pm every day and says that Lockie's's ran a marathon, it'll still to show another one true, it's. No one else will know any different. It'll be every single consecutive day for every person in america and in australia. It's just for us that cross the dateline in our head.
Speaker 1:We lose a day, but we could just use a garmin tracker or something like.
Speaker 2:Have some form of clock what you need to do is watch that movie around the world in 80 days. They have this issue as well that might be on tonight's list yeah, great movie. They go around in a hot air balloon, but did they make it? What are we going to wait and find out?
Speaker 1:I'll report back next week, everyone, yeah.
Speaker 2:I think it's. I think it's the only option, reasonable way to do it. It's if you're going for a Guinness World Record, they would more than likely stipulate every 24 hours you have to run one if you're crossing the date line. You can't just Run another one just because I would. Truly it's that date in that spot, not the other.
Speaker 1:And one final thing we're finishing probably at the start of football season. So if anyone here plays for the Brisbane Lions or plays for the Brisbane Broncos or is in some way working for them and you're playing a Thursday night game on the final, because, we finish on a Thursday night. Bring us to the game. Bring us to the game.
Speaker 2:Run into the stadium. That would be.
Speaker 1:That's like full olympic style that would be spartan style, like they're bringing out the new gladiator movie, so we could just I'll have a beard by then that will look very gray, um, but that'll be it. But, dude, I'm very excited for it and we'll get you back on every couple of weeks, if you're open to it, to see what more we have figured out. We'll be sticking around.
Speaker 2:We've got a few in a row coming up.
Speaker 1:We've got a few daily updates, but I'm excited for it. It's going to be great fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah, me too. It'll be a whole new experience that I've not done in that way. I've done lots of travel, but not that consistently every day. Which is going to be probably the biggest thing, it's probably the driving getting up every day having to drive, having to drive and having to drive In snow.
Speaker 1:It was pretty depressing when Amy and I did the radio tour in the snow like just miserable weather, but I still think we'll have to find a way to make it fun.
Speaker 2:We need some podcasts.
Speaker 1:If anyone's got some podcasts, yeah, send us podcasts or even just videos of you guys doing fun stuff in the sun in Australia. That would be depressing for us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think so. I think we need to have some sort of good stimulant like that. It's only six weeks away until we get to the sun. The Darwin run is going back to. The temperatures is 33 degrees.
Speaker 1:That's going to be a very big shock, like I'm probably going to have to run in jocks.
Speaker 2:It's a 40-degree turnaround from Alaska in two months, so Hawaii is probably going to be the same. They'll both be quite hot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's going to. I wonder how my body like stuff like that. That is going to be a big test with how the body like. Is the body going to overheat in that, I don't know. Interesting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're the electrolyte days, for sure. Compared to Alaska, yeah, compared to the snow, you'll be fine. Yeah, all right, guys, also make sure you check out Liam's business, prodigy Fire Solutions. It's going to be all over our van as well. So if you're in America, which I know a lot of you guys are, and in Australia, which also a lot of you guys are, and Canada, which maybe some are, and Canada. I actually never look out for Canadians on our listenership, but we'll look and you've got wildfire issues.
Speaker 2:Hit me up Wildfires.
Speaker 1:Wildfire issues hit him up because he can get to work while we're on the road. All right guys. As always, do something today to be better for tomorrow. We'll give you another update over the next couple of weeks.
